Crash driver calls on classic car owners to fit seatbelts

The damaged Hillman Minx

THE owner of a classic car which was damaged in a crash at the weekend is urging Islanders to have seatbelts fitted in their vintage vehicles.

Marcel Jeanne, the owner of the Hillman Minx which was involved in a crash on the Five Mile Road on Sunday when he was accompanied by his wife Jean (81), does not know whether he will be able to have the car repaired after it collided with a Land Rover.

The couple were taken to hospital following the crash and Mr Jeanne was later released, however, his wife – who suffered a fractured knee and bruising – is still recovering in hospital.

Mr and Mrs Jeanne, who live in Trinity, were not wearing seatbelts at the time of the crash because until 1966 cars were often made without them. Owners of classic cars where seatbelts have not been fitted as standard have no legal obligation to have them installed.




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Comments for: "Crash driver calls on classic car owners to fit seatbelts"


Typical knee-jerk reaction. Without proper anchorage points probably more dangerous than without them. The ones I've seen are only lap belts ... presumably because a pillar anchorage could no the made ... meaning that in a crash you'd be catapulted head-first into the steeringwheel / dashboard. Hope his car can be repaired, though.

CADDYSHACK....this looks like it could be gravy

lap belt would have killed driver by wacking his head into the dash. 3 point belts cannot be fitted as the pillar doesn't have suitable reinforced area.


fitting seatbelts to classic cars is a stupid idea on so many levels. firstly you would be devaluing the vehicle historically. secondly you would be fitting the seatbelt to something not re-enforced enough to take the impact in a crash.

Island Strife

Or we could educate all Range Rover drivers that the expression "king of the road driving position" doesn't actually mean that they own the road and should expect every car they meet to have to move out of the way of their ridiculously oversized cars just because most of the drivers of these tanks have no spatial awareness.

Perhaps the driver of the Range River that caused this crash will just pay for the damage and accept responsibility with good grace.

Presumably the king of the road was unsighted momentarily last weekend before crashing into this beautiful classic car ?

Distracted by the on board video or wi-if or hands free phone no doubt. . .

Mickey Mouth

Does Jersey require people over a certain age to be assessed as to whether they are still fit to be driving?


Great point about the age. Over 80s should at least do a reaction test as they have to in Amercia.

C Le Verdic

What are you insinuating?

I don't think the Range Rover driver's age was actually mentioned. S/he is already getting enough stick for crass taste in car ownership.

CADDYSHACK....this looks like it could be gravy

3 months in PRINN'S dungeon in mont orgeil castle would be a suitable punishment for anyone choosing a chelsea tractor.

C Le Verdic

Talking of Chelsea tractors, I've noticed there aren't so many Chelsea lorries in Jersey compared with their mainland popularity as a spoilt scrotes'* dad's truck. Perhaps they don't enjoy the tax breaks for pretend business use which encourage them in the UK.

The shiny commercial vehicle of choice locally, which never carries any more constructional material than surf boards is, of course, the pimped VW Transporter window van.

*I don't think it can be that there aren't many spoilt scrotes in Jersey needing ostentatious transport.


"Just occurs to me that as the Hillman was a classic car it was not required to have safety belts installed, hence the hospitaliation of two people. However, I share the sentiments regarding Range Rovers and their drivers feeling invincible."

I posted this above comment on another thread on 25 April. Rest my case. Sorry for the elders in the Hillman. Not sure about the position of the RR from the photos, might of stalled....


they might of stalled there range rover, from the fotos it looks as if it may of been stationery.

C Le Verdic

In which case, it could be a good example of why black cars aren't such a good idea from a 'hi viz' point of view. I've always been surprised that paint colour doesn't appear to be an issue in insurance quotations.

I am sure we will all learn exactly what happened soon, anyway. If appropriate, we can then air our motoring wisdom and prejudices further.


Cripes, don't think I've seen so many errors in one sentence

- 'might have' not 'might of'

- 'their' not 'there'

- 'Range Rover' not 'range rover'

- 'photos' not 'fotos'

- 'stationary' not 'stationery'

And as for the stalled factor, let's re-visit. Range Rover pulls out of the exit and the Hillman, more than a kilometre away on a straight dry road with no obstructions, carries on regardless to smash into the side.

Er, no. I would surmise RR driver was distracted by Hugo or Tabitha in the back whilst she was using her mobile and chatting to her friend in the passenger seat: I mean, one must look at the passenger when speaking, mustn't one?


All in all there seems to be some presumption of guilt towards the driver of the Range Rover, just because he or she was err... driving one of those apparently hated vehicles, typecast as driven by the green wellie brigade, but more often by builders and a second hand one can sometimes be procured for under £2000. The earlier photo shows clearly that the Hillman Minx, hardly a marque of merit, struck the side of the Range Rover and at very low speed. Presumably insurers will sort it fairly simply without need for public debate. As for the owner of this Hillman Minx now calling for seat belts to be fixed to all classic vehicles, he should had them fitted to his car in the the first place, if he felt so strongly about this, but as an earlier correspondent pointed out, three point anchorage points do not exist on those classic cars. The law as it stands is sensible.


I think the presumption of guilt towards the Range Rover is based on the photo where the Minx appears to have been traveling on the main road and the Rover has pulled onto the main road without care or attention to one of the fundamental rules of driving. "Take great care when turning into a main road; you will need to watch for traffic in both directions and wait for a safe gap."

Of course, that's without taking into consideration the well known psychological condition that drivers of bigger cars tend to drive more dangerously, as they fell safer in their car. The same condition displayed itself with people who drive with ABS breaking tend to break later than if they were unaware of the safety feature.... But this cannot be assumed in this case unlike the photographic evidence.


Perhaps the left indicator was left accidently on in the little minx and the range rover driver thought the minx was stopping or turning left and letting him/her out.

If it is a proper range rover and not a cheap range rover sport, the chances are that it is an automatic. How do you stall an automatic?

R B Bougourd

I have just made one of my rare trips to the wild and foggy West in order to gain a better understanding of the possible circumstances surrounding this collision.

I am in no doubt that the presence of the 'Barge Aground' as a major visual distraction to all passing drivers cannot be ruled out. For all we know, both drivers might have been absorbed by wistful contemplation of the folly and not have been giving the road their complete attention.

In this instance the type of vehicle being driven may be irrelevant.